In her March 14, 2019 podcast with James and Deborah Fallows, West Virginia Public Broadcasting’s Roxy Todd explores the sense of hope the Fallowses found for the economic future of smaller, rural communities.

When a large employer goes away, Jim Fallows said, communities need to look to a diversity of smaller initiatives, some of which will succeed. “You don’t know which bet is gonna make it,” Fallows said, “so you make lots of bets.” Listen to the podcast here.