This husband-and-wife journalism team spent four years crisscrossing the United States in a small plane, visiting dozens of small towns. They saw  communities engaged in a vigorous process of economic renewal—a stunning portrait, in sum, of an America reinventing itself, literally from the ground up. 

The Craftsmanship Initiative’s founder and executive director Todd Oppenheimer, snagged Deb and Jim for a sit-down interview.

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